I was using the "Tiered List" style and modified it for numbering. However, I could not find a way to save any paragraph spacing to the style and into my style library.
I basically want to change the paragraph before and after spacing so that list items are close together. However, there doesn't appear to be able to save that within the Tiered List (renamed to a custom name) style. I have to adjust the para spacing for each and every paragraph manually!
Is there a way to save paragraph and font settings with the List style?
Chris.
Paragraph Spacing in List Style
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agilefalcon
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Paragraph Spacing in List Style
Chris Berardi
Fort Worth, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Re: Paragraph Spacing in List Style
G'day, Chris et al
It doesn't appear that one can alter paragraph spacing of List Items in the Style Sheet itself.
But a simple Macro will do the trick:–
Format:Lists:Tiered List
Set Paragraph Spacing After 4
Format:Font:All Fonts:Monaco
Format:Size:14
Save this as a Macro. Then you can simply write your list as a sequence of paragraphs, select those paragraphs in their entirety, and then run the Macro.
Instead of "Tiered List" you can put any other List Style you want. You can alter the numerals as you see fit; same goes for the font.
Cheers,
Adrian
It doesn't appear that one can alter paragraph spacing of List Items in the Style Sheet itself.
But a simple Macro will do the trick:–
Format:Lists:Tiered List
Set Paragraph Spacing After 4
Format:Font:All Fonts:Monaco
Format:Size:14
Save this as a Macro. Then you can simply write your list as a sequence of paragraphs, select those paragraphs in their entirety, and then run the Macro.
Instead of "Tiered List" you can put any other List Style you want. You can alter the numerals as you see fit; same goes for the font.
Cheers,
Adrian
MacBook Pro (M1 Pro, 2021)
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
macOS Ventura
Nisus Writer user since 1996
Re: Paragraph Spacing in List Style
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agilefalcon
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Re: Paragraph Spacing in List Style
Those are helpful responses and the workarounds do get me to the end result.
I don't understand why the application would make it awkward though!
I created a "Bullet List" style. Then, for the various indent levels, applied slightly different formatting: Italics and font size being the main format changes. Guess what? Those are not saved either.
It doesn't seem that the styles and their application is thought out very well. There shouldn't need to be a workaround for a bullet or numbered list that has paragraph formatting. Unless the List Styles aren't really styles but only list type formatting to be applied to paragraph styles. They really shouldn't be called or managed like real styles.
Chris.
I don't understand why the application would make it awkward though!
I created a "Bullet List" style. Then, for the various indent levels, applied slightly different formatting: Italics and font size being the main format changes. Guess what? Those are not saved either.
It doesn't seem that the styles and their application is thought out very well. There shouldn't need to be a workaround for a bullet or numbered list that has paragraph formatting. Unless the List Styles aren't really styles but only list type formatting to be applied to paragraph styles. They really shouldn't be called or managed like real styles.
Chris.
Chris Berardi
Fort Worth, Texas
Fort Worth, Texas
Re: Paragraph Spacing in List Style
There are those here who might give you a more informative explanation, but my take is that it is, in a sense, a question of naming.
As I see it, "List Styles" should perhaps be thought of as "List types" (the same goes I suspect for "Note Styles"). From experience here and with other apps built on Apple TextKit, the "List styles" are actually based on the listing framework provided by the TextKit, not "styles" like "Paragraph/Character Styles". The framework must provide automated tabbing and bullet/numbering options, but have no hooks for line spacing, font size, etc. Look at TextEdit, which is basic TextKit; you'll see it can do lists and basic tables, but no "styles"… they have to be programmed as necessary by the developer of any app based on TextKit.
The result is, as you see, you can't add paragraph/character styling to the "List Styles", but you can apply apply "List Styles" to "Paragraph Styles". Therefore, if you want your list items to have a different font family/font size/line spacing to your "Normal" settings, you need to create paragraph styles and apply the desired "List Style" to them.
HTH
Mark
As I see it, "List Styles" should perhaps be thought of as "List types" (the same goes I suspect for "Note Styles"). From experience here and with other apps built on Apple TextKit, the "List styles" are actually based on the listing framework provided by the TextKit, not "styles" like "Paragraph/Character Styles". The framework must provide automated tabbing and bullet/numbering options, but have no hooks for line spacing, font size, etc. Look at TextEdit, which is basic TextKit; you'll see it can do lists and basic tables, but no "styles"… they have to be programmed as necessary by the developer of any app based on TextKit.
The result is, as you see, you can't add paragraph/character styling to the "List Styles", but you can apply apply "List Styles" to "Paragraph Styles". Therefore, if you want your list items to have a different font family/font size/line spacing to your "Normal" settings, you need to create paragraph styles and apply the desired "List Style" to them.
HTH
Mark