How to stop table from flowing onto next page

[Maggie555]

Hi,
I have a text with an number of tables inline with the text. None of the tables are very long, but occasionally, one of them lines up such that it flows onto the next page. I'd like to avoid that and force the whole table to stay together and, if necessary, to jump to the next page in its entirety.
How do I go about this? I've tried highlighting the table and checking "keep paragraph together", but that didn't do it.
Thanks

[martin]

Hi Maggie- there's currently no automated way to do this, sorry. You'll have to manually insert a page break or some newlines to manage the table.

[Maggie555]

Thanks.

[panca]

That's a real shame! Maybe a simple solution would be to make paragraph-flowcontrol activ across table-rows? I would have expected that anyways. 'Keep paragraph with next' should inhibit a page-bread between to table-rows as well!

Please solve this in 1.1 (I see nothing so far) - in my opinion that's a quite basic feature for a word-processor! After all intelligent flow-control anticipating change in text-layout is a main reason to use a word-processor, isn't it?

Best
Panca

[MacNara]

I don't use tables much, but I just had to edit a 30-page paper for a friend which had 20 tables in it. I spent hours trying to find where the command was to keep the tables each on one page. I played around with every combination of widow/orphan and paragraph togetherness. Eventually I came here. I really find it difficult to believe that keeping tables together on the same page is not possible. Add one line and you have to go through the entire document to realign the tables manually!

The current NWP manual is a pain to use, since it's essentially a printed manual - why are there no links from the pdf contents to the page in question? Anyway, if fairly important features like this are missing, then it would be a kindness to say this in the manual, too.

"If you make a table, it will flow onto the next page, and there's nothing you can do about it. Yes, if you re-format your document in any way, or add or remove anything whatsoever, then you will have to go through the whole document again and position each table using line breaks and paragraph breaks. And of course, when you re-position one table, all the following ones will move, so check them again. And even when you do this, when you send it to someone else to look at in a different word processor, the tables will probably be messed up anyway."

I don't claim copyright; you can just put this in the tables section of the manual as is.

Making tables with spaces and tabs is primitive, but the positioning of the tables has to be done by what is essentially the same method. Since tables can be created and selected as a unit, surely it's possible to tell the software to treat the table like a graphic, and not to break it up? And have text flowing around it as one option.

[greenmorpher]

If you are working on a final draft where the tables won't change, you could have the tables in a another document, save them as PDF, then place them as graphics in the output document. As graphics, you could pin them to the page.

I'm looking forward to the next upgrade -- it should be coming pretty soon now, shouldn't it? When did 1.1 come out?

Cheers, Geoff

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[suomichris]

So, I've just downloaded a trial of Nisus 1.2, and I still can't find this feature. Was it not included in the latest update?

This is a pretty basic feature for a "Pro" writing platform--when was the last time you saw a book with a four-line table broken onto two pages??