Lists unusable

[pds]

Please forgive the tone but I've had it with this.

There apppears to be no way to reliabily create something like this:

1. section 1
1.1 sub section

for section headings. The entire listing function does the strangest things if you try. It basically ignores the format and insists on putting an 'A' for the second level, regardless of the format you choose. However, sometimes it actually works but then will not insert the correct number for the sub section, it reverts to '1'.

As for the UI, if you click on an areas of text that doesn't have a list in it, the list box on the right still shows a list as being selected. What is that about? Also, I've had to switch the ruler off because the UI just gets screwed up (and no, I have no dodgy extensions).

This is very poor indeed and for all practical purposed, unusable.

Now before you all tell me I need to select 'continue list through document' or whatever, I challenge you to get it working.

[dshan]

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1. Select "Number List" from Tooldrawer or toolbar

2. Click "1.1" button in tooldrawer->Lists and verify "Number" is 1 and "Increment" is 1 and Format is "1,2,3".

3. In document window you should see "1." and the insertion point. Type your section heading:
   1. Section 1

4. Press <return> and see:
   1. Section 1
   2. |

5. Now press <tab> and you'll see it change to:
   1. Section 1
       1.1. |

6. Type your 1.1 sub-heading and <return> followed by however many <tab>s needed to increment appropriately. To go back up a level use <delete> key following <return>

7. At end of your list set "Lists"->"Style: Use none" in tooldrawer or toolbar.

8. Look up lists in NWX help or the User Guide where all this is explained (and more).

[midwinter]

It would seem that the lists are, in fact, quite usable!

[cchapin]

I think I can reproduce the kind of issue that pds wrote about when I try to use Number List, but I get the kind of numbering system he wants when I use Tiered List.

With Number List, I have to change the number format for each level after the first. (In the Lists palette, I have to click the 1.1 tab, then change Format to 1,2,3.) Once the change is made for that level, it holds through the document, but any levels beyond that need to be changed as I reach them. That's because 1., 1.1., 1.1.1. is not the kind of list that Number List is meant to be. Number List is meant to produce levels like this: 1., a., i., (1), et cetera. Basically, I'm having to redefine it as I go.

On the other hand Tiered List works flawlessly for me. Could this be the solution to pds's problem?

--Craig

[pds]

It would seem that the lists are, in fact, quite usable!

OK, let me clarify. I forgot to mention in the initial post that this happens when you already have text that you want to put into sections like I mentioned. It seems to go wrong when you changed to tiered option in the list box and then select a number format. I did this and all hell broke loose. After hours of trying to get it working, and nearly breaking my ibook, I then shut it does and started again with a new document and it worked.

Something is not right here but I'm not sure how to reproduce it every time.

[martin]

I'm not sure what to tell you, as I've never seen this issue reported before. If you have a document the reproduces the problem, send it to us using the Help > Send Feedback menu.

And just in case this is "user error" I would suspect that you were changing the number format for the wrong level. Eg: when editing the list style via the Lists palette make sure the proper level number is showing. Any changes to the number format you make there will take effect across the whole document.

Also, I've had to switch the ruler off because the UI just gets screwed up

This sounds like this bug. We are working on it and should have it fixed for the next free upgrade.